9/11 again

This year, I’ll be brief:

Imagine No Religion

(With thanks to Non Credo Deus)

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6 Responses to “9/11 again”


  1. 1 Jorge

    O problema não é a religião. É o fanatismo. E este pode muito bem existir sem religião…

  2. 2 Fabio

    And the world will live as one

  3. 3 Jorge

    (Sorry for my response in Portuguese. I didn’t notice this blog is written in English. Please excuse me)
    Here’s the translation:
    The problem is not religion. It’s fanatism. And it can very well exist without religion…

  4. 4 Pedro Timóteo

    Jorge: fanaticism is simply following ALL of some religion, instead of just the “pleasant” parts.

    It’s common to say “oh, the 9/11 hijackers were extremists, Islam isn’t like that”.

    Much the opposite: Islam IS like that. The “moderates” are those who ignore more than 50% of the Koran.

    And Christianity is no better. How many people have you stoned to death because they were gay, disobeyed their parents, ate shellfish, or worked on a saturday? None, I hope. And yet Christianity tells you to do all of those.

    “Fanaticism” and “extremism” are not distortions of a faith, they are TRUE faith. “Moderation” is nothing more than ignoring the unpleasant parts of a faith. Which pretty much amounts to “making up your own religion”…

  5. 5 Jorge

    “Fanaticism and extremism are not distortions of a faith, they are TRUE faith.”
    That’s not true, but that would be a discussion that would take too long.
    Anyway, you didn’t argue against what I think is the most important point: even if you could end with all kinds of religion, you wouldn’t end fanatism.
    It’s a mistake to think that.
    No one can assure that terrorism wouldn’t exist if religion didn’t exist. Take a look at ETA. It has nothing to do with religion.

  6. 6 Pedro Timóteo

    Jorge: I agree with you, religion is not the only way to be a fanatic. As to extremists, however, I stand by what I said, and I’ve just written a (I hope) clearer reply here. It’s not on this blog because it’s really offtopic here. Feel free to comment there, if you’d like.

  1. 1 Moderates and Extremists at Way of the Mind

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