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		<title>By: The Tlog - a technology blog &#187; Funny things about search engine positions</title>
		<link>http://www.thetlog.net/2005/10/02/the-google-sandbox/#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator>The Tlog - a technology blog &#187; Funny things about search engine positions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What makes those two blogs so different in this respect? Almost surely this: the Google Sandbox. One is in it, the other isn&#8217;t. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What makes those two blogs so different in this respect? Almost surely this: the Google Sandbox. One is in it, the other isn&#8217;t. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Tlog - a technology blog &#187; Firefox extension: SearchStatus</title>
		<link>http://www.thetlog.net/2005/10/02/the-google-sandbox/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>The Tlog - a technology blog &#187; Firefox extension: SearchStatus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 10:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s also an easy way to check whether your site is in the Google Sandbox&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dehumanizer</title>
		<link>http://www.thetlog.net/2005/10/02/the-google-sandbox/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Dehumanizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 09:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruno: yes, I think that&#039;s what happened.

In my case, it was a bit different: I used to have all my sites at www.dehumanizer.com/something, but, about a month and a half ago, moved them to something.dehumanizer.com. All of them still have a PageRank of 0, even though I see Google crawling them all every day. But www.dehumanizer.com, which is now merely a list of my sites, has a PageRank of 4.

Also, if I google for terms or phrases I use in my site(s), I get really bad results - not in the top 100, usually, which means that most people will never come here through Google.

&quot;Pacience, young Padawan&quot;, I say to myself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruno: yes, I think that&#8217;s what happened.</p>
<p>In my case, it was a bit different: I used to have all my sites at <a href="http://www.dehumanizer.com/something" rel="nofollow">http://www.dehumanizer.com/something</a>, but, about a month and a half ago, moved them to something.dehumanizer.com. All of them still have a PageRank of 0, even though I see Google crawling them all every day. But <a href="http://www.dehumanizer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dehumanizer.com</a>, which is now merely a list of my sites, has a PageRank of 4.</p>
<p>Also, if I google for terms or phrases I use in my site(s), I get really bad results &#8211; not in the top 100, usually, which means that most people will never come here through Google.</p>
<p>&#8220;Pacience, young Padawan&#8221;, I say to myself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Rodrigues</title>
		<link>http://www.thetlog.net/2005/10/02/the-google-sandbox/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Rodrigues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed this effect, but only related to AdSense - I&#039;ve created a new site and I&#039;ve called it &quot;foo.litux.org&quot;. After some days, the site was already in a good position in search, and was already receiving referers from google, but all ads clicks were paying $0. Then I&#039;ve created another similar site (to avoid duplicated content - basically half of the content was in each site), but this one was called www.litux.org/foo/*. It took the same time to reach the same search rank, but the ads started to give money (not much, but at least not $0). 

My feeling is that Google saw the new domain as a new site and put it on the sandbox, but saw the new URL as an extension of the existing site.

According to the Google Page Rank MacOSX widget, both sites still have Page Rank = 0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed this effect, but only related to AdSense &#8211; I&#8217;ve created a new site and I&#8217;ve called it &#8220;foo.litux.org&#8221;. After some days, the site was already in a good position in search, and was already receiving referers from google, but all ads clicks were paying $0. Then I&#8217;ve created another similar site (to avoid duplicated content &#8211; basically half of the content was in each site), but this one was called <a href="http://www.litux.org/foo/" rel="nofollow">http://www.litux.org/foo/</a>*. It took the same time to reach the same search rank, but the ads started to give money (not much, but at least not $0). </p>
<p>My feeling is that Google saw the new domain as a new site and put it on the sandbox, but saw the new URL as an extension of the existing site.</p>
<p>According to the Google Page Rank MacOSX widget, both sites still have Page Rank = 0.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetlog.net/2005/10/02/the-google-sandbox/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 14:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also only had my website online for about 6 or 7 months and have had very little traffic come in from google, even though I&#039;m listed pretty well. But how can I know this is due to sandboxing and not just a small number of people looking for the subject of my portuguese antispam website?

Anyhow, great post :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also only had my website online for about 6 or 7 months and have had very little traffic come in from google, even though I&#8217;m listed pretty well. But how can I know this is due to sandboxing and not just a small number of people looking for the subject of my portuguese antispam website?</p>
<p>Anyhow, great post <img src='http://www.thetlog.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ignat</title>
		<link>http://www.thetlog.net/2005/10/02/the-google-sandbox/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 13:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google&#039;s Sandbox effect is a very interesting thing. In fact, it was explained rather well in their March 2005 patent (I have written post on that at my SEO Blog a while ago). But after the patent came to public attention, many web masters began to question the truth of some things in the patent. Perhaps Google is just bluffing to inderectly fight spammers. As SEOs we can never know for sure, just guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google&#8217;s Sandbox effect is a very interesting thing. In fact, it was explained rather well in their March 2005 patent (I have written post on that at my SEO Blog a while ago). But after the patent came to public attention, many web masters began to question the truth of some things in the patent. Perhaps Google is just bluffing to inderectly fight spammers. As SEOs we can never know for sure, just guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.thetlog.net/2005/10/02/the-google-sandbox/#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sandbox effect can be frustrating. But just think, when google starts ranking you properly you&#039;ll have a load of decent content already up here and people coming in won&#039;t just be thinking &quot;is this it?!?&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sandbox effect can be frustrating. But just think, when google starts ranking you properly you&#8217;ll have a load of decent content already up here and people coming in won&#8217;t just be thinking &#8220;is this it?!?&#8221;.</p>
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